Showing posts with label coins. Show all posts
Showing posts with label coins. Show all posts

Monday, August 17, 2009

Information cascades, herd instinct, and the wisdom (?) of crowds


Professor Orzel's coin estimation contest is now over, and the graph above shows his plot of the estimates submitted by people who entered the contest. The red vertical line shows the true correct value of $165.26. The median and mean of the guesses were $77.12 and $83.30, roughly half of the true value.

My own guess was based on a simple strategy: choose the middle of a large open interval that was on the high side of the 50 or so guesses already submitted by the time I entered. Why?

1) Stakes were low*, and it was rational for me not to spend a lot of time computing a complex estimate.

2) By the time I entered, a lot of people had already submitted guesses, most of which seemed grounded in plausible reasoning, so it was rational for me to "free ride" off their computational efforts.

3) I knew from the MBA study that, on average, people typically tend to underestimate the value of a bunch of coins, and Geeky Mom's recent post also reminded me of this tendency. On the other hand, the Bazerman-Samuelson experimental data also told me that there is usually at least one person who guesses too high.

4) So I wanted to guess high, but I didn't want to outflank the highest guesser.

5) And I wanted a large open interval so I could take the midpoint of that interval and hopefully "control" a large amount of numeric real estate. At the time I submitted my guess, I saw a large open interval on the highish side, running from $120.94 to $150.92, so I submitted a guess which was midway between those two points, which was $135.93. So, if nobody else had come along afterwards, I would have "controlled" the entire span between $128.43 and $143.43. (Of course, people did come along and poach on my real estate, but what can you do? It's a free country, as they say! Actually, if I'd been obsessive, I'd have waited until the last possible moment, in order to take all possible data from other people's guesses into account, but I'm not THAT obsessed!)

How did I do? Well, I didn't win. That honor went to Michael Day, who submitted a guess of $166.10. (At least he wasn't one of those folks poaching on my "turf.")

But at least I did better than the median or mean, and I also came closer than Professor Orzel himself, who said he would have guessed $130. And, of course, he had some informational advantages (what the SEC would call "insider information," if this were a marketable security.)

Professor Orzel asks:

Now, why were the rest of the guesses so far off? Isn't the "wisdom of crowds" effect supposed to make an average of a large number of estimates better than any individual guess?


As I mentioned in my last post, winner's curse is not a factor in this contest, because it's not an auction situation. In an auction, you would expect sophisticated bidders to bid somewhat on the low side, because they are worried about the winner's curse phenomenon.

However, as I pointed out before, Professor Orzel's contest isn't an auction, so there's no winner's curse involved. (If there HAD been an auction of the coin jar, it would most likely have been won by that person on the far right of the histogram, who thought the coins were worth $327. If everyone were rational, and took winner's curse into account, they would likely have bid less than their estimates. The question is whether they would have adjusted their bids ENOUGH.)

But the question remains: why is the average of the estimates in this case so far below the true value? (Even worse than the estimates of those Bazerman/Samuelson MBA students, whose estimates averaged about 65% of the true value.) At least they were better than Geeky Mom's estimate. (It would be interesting to see the data from her bank, which runs an estimation contest.)

A few possibilities include the phenomena known as information cascades or herd instinct.

Basically, what it comes down to is this: when people were submitting their guesses, they were using the information they had about other people's guesses in formulating their own guesses. That means that our guesses were not independent of one another. You see this sort of thing all the time in financial bubbles and panics. Of course, the stakes here were much lower* than in the global financial markets.

Now, it was entirely rational for us to use all the information we had available in formulating our own guesses, including the guesses submitted by other people, especially those of us who were sophisticated in how we used the data. (I like to think that I was reasonably sophisticated in my use of the information, even if I didn't win the contest!) But other people might have used the early information in more naive ways, because they didn't take into account the fact that people have a tendency to underestimate values of coin containers, which led to an unfortunately inaccurate information cascade.

*No offense intended with the "low stakes" remark, Prof. Orzel, but all of us losers will just have to wait a little while until your book hits the bookstore shelves. Having to wait a little to read your book is a lot less painful than what the information cascades have done to the world economy in past year.

Friday, August 14, 2009

Coin estimation contest and winner's curse

Union College Physics Professor Chad Orzel has a book coming out this fall, How to Explain Physics to Your Dog, which looks great, from what I have seen of the previews on his blog, Uncertain Principles.

You can win a free galley proof copy of his forthcoming book if you can correctly guess the dollar value of the change in his loose change box.



Details of his contest and a better picture are here.

Professor Orzel's contest reminded me of the famous coin-jar auction experiments that a psychologist and an economist conducted with their MBA students to illustrate the winner's curse phenomenon, an important concept in game theory, a branch of applied mathematics.

Robert Frank's Behavioral Economics text describes those experiments as follows:

[When] psychologist Max Bazerman was teaching at Boston University some years back, he and his colleague William Samuelson performed the following experiment in their microeconomics classes. First they placed $8 worth of coins in a clear jar. After giving their students a chance to examine the jar carefully, they then auctioned it off--coins and all--to the highest bidder. They also asked each student to submit a written estimate of the value of the coins in the jar.

On the average, students behaved conservatively, both with respect to their bids and to the estimates they submitted. Indeed, the average estimate was only $5.13, about one-third less than the actual value of the coins. Similarly, most students dropped out of the bidding well before the auction price reached $8.

Yet the size of the winning bid in any auction depends not on the behavior of the average bidder, but on the behavior of the highest bidder. In 48 repetitions of this experiment, the top bid averaged $10.01, more than 20 percent more than the coins were worth.

Professor Frank goes on to note that: "Bazerman and Samuelson thus made almost $100 profit at the collective expense of their winning bidders. At that price, the winners may consider it an important lesson learned cheaply." Why? Because the winner's curse phenomenon can occur in real world situations with far greater stakes, for example, in oil lease auctions and corporate takeovers. For more information, see here and here.

However, as I noted above, Professor Orzel teaches physics, not psychology or economics, so there's no "winner's curse" risk in his contest, but you can still have fun thinking about your strategy for coming up with a guess.

Thursday, August 13, 2009

More on coins

Geeky Mom writes:

Yesterday, I filled a bag with about half of the coins and trudge to the bank on my way to the farmer's market. The bank lets you estimate how much money you have and if you're close, you win a prize. As I poured the money into the machine, I saw mostly pennies. So, I estimated about 7.50. When it was all said in done, I had slightly over $52 in coins. Mostly dimes, it turned out. I'm really bad at estimating, especially now that I rarely handle cash, much less coins. All my cash is digital, exchanged either via electronic transfer or similarly, using my debit card. I used to keep tips in a mayonnaise jar on my dresser, saving up for the deposit on an apartment in graduate school town. I know about how much was there, in part because I knew how much I made in tips, but also because I dealt with cash all the time.

I spent a little more than half of my new found cash at the farmer's market. Even though I always take cash there (most of the vendors don't take other forms of payment), I felt a little giddy at having such a large amount, created, it seemed, out of thin air.

Money now does seem to come out of thin air, arriving in bank accounts without anyone having to touch anything. I used to work at a bank during the summers. One summer I filed loan applications, the 3 attached parts left after everything was signed off. Another summer I filed the checks people deposited into their accounts, checks that were then sent to other banks to be filed and then placed in an envelope to be sent to the customer with her statement. Even then, the real transaction happened electronically, with a machine reading routing and account numbers, a human inputting the amounts, which were then coded onto the check to be read by another machine. For a brief time each summer, it was my job to count money coming in from the vendors at the annual summer festival. Bags of coins and dollar bills showed up at the bank and I stood behind the tellers, counting it all by hand, recording amounts on deposit slips, amounts that were later entered into computers while the money itself went into the vault, to be redistributed to banks or to customers withdrawing money.


Her post captures how a lot of people have lost touch with their "number sense" about money, because most monetary transactions are about electrons zapping around from place to place.

It's actually very hard to pay your income tax bill in cash. Even if you walk into one of the few remaining IRS taxpayer assistance centers with a wad of twenty dollar bills trying to pay off your tax bill, they are reluctant to accept it. Basically, the IRS is just not set up to take cash. They really want you to use their electronic payments system or mail them a check. And don't even think about trying to pay your tax bill with a wheelbarrel full of pennies!

Ideally, what makes it as simple as possible for the IRS is for your employer to (slightly) overpay your taxes through withholding from your wages throughout the year, and then they'll send you a refund (preferably by direct deposit) after you file your tax return at the end of the year.

Today's Wall Street Journal has an op-ed from Charles Murray saying that this approach is "bad for Democracy."

He proposes that we replace the current system under which most American pay most of their taxes through withholding from their wages with a system under which all American taxpayers would instead just send in quarterly tax payments to the IRS.

You can read more about this in two recent posts on my tax policy blog.